This meeting could have been an email Karen Dudek-Brannan

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In this episode, we discuss the importance of effective communication and collaboration in education. We explore unproductive meetings and emphasize the value of building relationships. Despite the focus on efficiency, we encourage listeners to consider the potential benefits of face-to-face connections.
In this episode, we dive into a discussion about the importance of effective communication and collaboration in the education field. Acknowledging the popular meme about meetings that could have been emails, we explore the concept of unproductive meetings while cautioning against completely neglecting face-to-face communication. While written communication, such as emails, can be efficient and sufficient for tasks like scheduling or progress updates, we stress the need to consider the purpose and goal of the communication. Is it for legal compliance, updates, or scheduling? Understanding the preferences of the other person is also crucial, as some individuals may prefer phone calls or in-person discussions. However, we also highlight the value of building relationships and connecting with others. Even if the outcome could be achieved through email, we prioritize the long-term game of relationship-building. We believe that there are potential benefits to having meetings, even if they may not seem necessary at first glance. In today's society, there's a strong focus on technology, productivity, and efficiency, all of which are important aspects, especially for those with busy schedules. However, we emphasize the value of pausing and connecting with someone, even if the meeting doesn't result in immediate outcomes or a significant amount of work accomplished. Sometimes, simply taking the time to connect solely for the purpose of building a relationship can be advantageous in the long run. Therefore, we encourage listeners who highly value productivity or work with individuals who do to shift their perspective and approach these situations with curiosity. Instead of thinking that "this meeting should have been an email," we invite you to consider whether there could be additional benefits or alternative ways to view the meeting.

Dr. Karen Dudek-Brannan, and is a learning leader, SLP, and founder/CEO of Dr. Karen, LLC, a company focused on empowering therapists and educators to design interventions that support language, literacy, and executive functioning. Through her courses and trainings, as well as the De Facto Leaders Podcast, she shares up-to-date evidence-based practices, my own experience, and guest interviews designed to help pediatric therapists, educators, and aspiring school leaders design services that support social, emotional, and academic growth and set kids up for success in adulthood.

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Creators and Guests

Dr. Karen Dudek-Brannan
Dr. Karen Dudek-Brannan
Founder and CEO of Dr Karen, LLC; Host of the De Facto Leaders Podcast; Speech-Language Pathologist; Language, literacy, and executive functioning specialist.
This meeting could have been an email Karen Dudek-Brannan